On June 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. This forensic approach is becoming more common. I informed D.C.I. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. Video, 00:02:36, Up Next. Happier times: Alex Murdaugh, Maggie and their sons are the picture-perfect family in never-before-seen photos taken on a hunting trip just a few years before brutal slayings, 'Why isn't he being prosecuted?' Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. However, the BBC documentary Darklands shown in November 2020 identified Ronald Harries who murdered his aunt and uncle as Muriels killer, and a cousin of Harries was shown in the documentary and was expected to give DNA to prove or disprove the theory.. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. Only by comparing D.N.A. All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. Positive reviews really help others find our show. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Police confirmed a cold case review on the stain found on Muriel's coat in 1946 had now been tested by forensics teams. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. Neil. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was raped in Penllergaer Woods, beaten about the head with a blunt instrument and then shot with a World War I Colt 45 on 27 June 1946. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. A different D.C.I. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. On his way home, he passed Muriel as she walked along the path. Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. The police statement that Jones was ruled out is a misleading statement. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. "(The murder) turned our family upside down and has been talked about through the generations. On the back of the coat, a no-longer-visible semen stain was circled with yellow crayon. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. Officers are now examining a semen stain on Muriel's coat to see if it can be linked to Jones. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. I wonder if there was a sketch done when Hoyles confronted a man weeks earlier. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. And I also think there are likely more victims. The path she walked home on curved in and out of the woods; her mother saw her walking home along the path and into the woods, but not come out again. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Neil Milkins. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. Sometime later that afternoon, Muriels mother Margaret glanced out of her kitchen window and noticed Muriel approaching their property from approximately 400 yards away. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Martyn Lloyd-Evans again regarding the letter from D.C.Paul Rogers. Photo added by Tracey. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? 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The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. The team also uncovered a book that had once belonged to Muriel but was found in a Carmarthen charity shop. In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. Todays' video is about the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. profiling cleared Hubert who stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name.). And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. Neil Milkins. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. Swansea 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater, who was shot after being sexually assaulted in 1946, Officers searching the farmland in the days after the murder, Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, A picture of the gun police believe was used, Harold Jones, a convicted child killer who was also a suspect in Muriel's killing, Ronnie Harries, the last man to be sentenced to death in Carmarthen, The book that was found in a charity shop. She was shot twice in the chest. "I found the original clothing," he said. Why? Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? During the course of the investigation the finger of blame had sometimes been pointed at Muriel's father, John. ~ Christine. I really appreciate how youre helping keep the true crime community informed on whats going on behind the scenes in this frustrating and heartbreaking case. Nevertheless, the FBI was called in to assist with determining the ownership of the murder weapon, but nothing seems to have ever transpired from this lead. Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. will do what you suggest. "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Video, 00:00:42Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. Neil. It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. She was still wearing her school uniform. There was another murder in 1943. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. Was a local stalking Muriel? It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. "And we know, even though it had been 60 years since it went into storage, that it is hers. Her route to her familys home Tyle-Du Farmentailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. Hi. Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. A brother, nephew, grandson. She goes to grammar school. On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. Mudgee General Cemetery. Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Interesting case Christine. Video, 00:01:18Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, One-minute World News. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. Muriel Drinkwater. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. The new B.B.C. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Oftentimes the public wonders why resources should be allocated to cold cases such as Muriels, cases in which most of victims immediate family, and even the perpetrator, are likely dead. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. Her mother later went to the village to look for her when she did not return home; more than a dozen men from the area began a search. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. Something went wrong, please try again later. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. Psychic Diane Lazarus. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. Her mother was in the kitchen and . She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. I guess a DNA test of Sheila Martin must have been taken to see if it was the same person. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. ~ Christine. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. 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Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. I was made aware the following day that my request would NOT be granted. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Are you able to help please? In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . Hi Neil. Hi Neil. See link to Jones and other murders. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. 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